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of an issue in the debate. mitt romney raised it last week and president obama blamed exxon mobil and they fired back at the president when he suggested changing the tax law to affect that company and it will come up in the v.p. debate and more down the stretch especially if prices are around $4 a gallon. >>eric: what do you think of the idea of relaxing the epa standards? the way i understand it, it is the california epa standard and keeping the national epa standard in place with the blending requirement. what do you think of that idea? >>guest: i'm not an energy expert but the politicians always have to be active in this situation you cannot just it is back and all the people in california, they are upset, they want something done. you can just say, we cannot do anything, it is up to the speculators and the markets. you have to try something. even though a last times when you do something, times it doesn't work. you have to be active whether you are a democrat or republican. you have to respond to the concerns. when you are spending this amount of money, $70 or $80 to fill up t
before the second presidential debate. they will be hitting it hard in the debate. romney and ryan in friendly territory here in fishersville. the rally won't be until later on today because they want all those sound bites from last night's debate to marinate before romney and ryan take it stage here today. bill: john roberts in the western part of virginia. martha: while all this marinates. president obama has been hit with some criticism from some republicans for bringing former president bill clinton into the mix. >> we tried both approaches. the approach governor romney is talking about is the same sales pitch that was made in 2001 and 2003. and we ended up with the slowest job growth in 50 years, we ended up moving from surplus to deficits, and it all culminated in the financial crisis since the great depression. bill clinton tried the approach i'm talking about. we created 23 million you are in jobs. we went from deficit to surplus, and businesses did very well. martha: don't forget that bill clinton did very well for this president at his convention. but there is karl rove's
that to be a point of contention at the debated a week from tuesday, as well. the obama campaign saying the romney performance last wednesday was a performance. romney campaign saying the obama campaign is behaving like a seven-year-old kid playing checkers. he wipes the board off the table. >> gregg: reminds me of elementary school, liar, liar, pants on fire. we could go on and on. john roberts, thanks so much. >> air force one expected to touchdown in los angeles any moment. president heading to a private event followed by a campaign 30 days to victory concert at nokia theater in los angeles. it will be packed with celebrity supporters. president will make remarks along with actor and sinsel town george clooney and musical performances by many celebrities we'll get a live report a bit later on. >> heather: political battle breaking out over the number one issue this election season, jobs. on friday. the labor department reporting that the unemployment rate for september was right there, 7.8%. the obama campaign out to that go number to show that the recovery is picking up steam, but republicans
can only help the romney campaign and only hurt the obama campaign. last debate between romney and obama, romney cleaned obama's clock. you can tell who won by the poll numbers. having ryan do well in this debate only helps that momentum going forward. at the same time, vice president biden is prone to gaffes. he has talked about the middle-class being in a ditch for the last four years. he has been talking about raising taxes, raising trillions of dollars in taxes. having that one soundbite that biden can across with as a gaffe could really hurt. >> heather: do you think we'll see a more aggressive vice president biden? >> i hope so. one thing about the first debate that democrats will learn that mitt romney and paul ryan, they fact checkers they will get into it. they will say things over and over again that are not true. during the debate the vice president needs to say during the debate, paul ryan that is not true. at the time they can't rely on fact checks for after the debate. >> heather: vice president biden has had problems were with his own fact checkingers. coming out
. bush to something better. romney came out best in the first debate because he denied the path he has chosen, denied the big tax cut from 35% down to 28% for people at the top bracket. the all-out elimination of the estate tax, the big-time cut in the corporate rate. he denied his plan to eliminate medicare, denied he would kill coverage for those with pre-existing conditions. he got away without bothering to deny his plan to let the automobile industry to go bankrupt and to dump 40 million people to wait in the emergency room. let's look at some of the latest polling in the wake of wednesday's debate. this afternoon pew released a poll that showed a dramatic shift toward romney. this poll covers the four days since the debate, and it has romney pulling even with president obama among registered voters, 46% even. four weeks ago pew had obama up by nine among registered voters, so this has been a huge shift in the pew poll. the move in the pew poll towards romney is greater among likely voters. romney is surging ahead to 49%. four weeks ago obama led among likely voters by eight. now t
policy debate with the president. this mitt romney needs to debate the old mitt romney as well. on each of these things he's taken the opposite position. there's an extended criticism of the president's take on syria, for instance. yet this is the same mitt romney who also said getting involved with libya would be mission creep. he opposed that in one country and now proposes it somewhere else. the point of consistent for him is israel. to pa are a phrase joe biden every foreign policy sentence has a noun, verb and the word israel in it. when it comes to the actual position saying a president needs to be involved in the middle east, it's drifted, that's true about the peace process. this is the same mitt romney, i believe, who was taped talking about the 47% and said, you know, when it comes to the middle east it's never going to happen. i will leave it to the next guy. >> we have that. let's listen to what mitt romney. almost literally said to kick the can down the road. this is part of the infamous 47% videotape taken surreptitiously in florida this year. let's listen to what he said
romney as a souvenir of the night he crushed you in that debate. >> my gosh. okay. >> so that's what he's doing. because i'm sitting there going, what's he doing? >> good morning, everyone. >> it makes more sense. it fills in the blank. >> that gives us proper context. >> it is friday. it is friday, thank god. i need two days away from all of you people. october 5th. >> mika, hold on. >> no, stop. >> you need a couple of days away from politics. >> no, i don't. >> mika, all day yesterday -- >> what you say off tv sometimes stays off tv. >> i'm not going to repeat what you said. i've never seen her so depressed. she sort of wandered around. >> it was just one day. >> i swear to god, she was wandering around getting lost in crowds. >> no, that's just how i walk. >> i swear to god, she'd go, "he might win." >> no, i did not do that. now you're making up stuff. i do get lost in crowds, but that's because i have no sense of direction and i'm on my iphone. okay. >> chosen one may not be chosen this time. >> no. >> and it's freaking her out. >> it was a bad night. i will say this, i don't know
did in the debate! obama lost despite mitt romney doing this. >> i'm sorry, jim, i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs, i'm going to stop other things. i like pbs. i like big bird. i actually like you, too. i'm not going to spend money on things to borrow money from china to pay for it. >> he [ bleep ] fired big bird! he still won walking away. romney won with the sound up. >> you're entitled to your own airplane and your own house but not to your own facts. >> romney won with the sound off. dude, he's yelling at you! look up! look up! what are you looking at? what are you writing that's so important? what are you doing -- oh, that's not -- oh, i didn't realize. that is impressive work. i didn't realize that. maybe you could give that to mitt romney as a souvenir of the night he crushed you in that debate. >> my gosh. okay. >> so that's what he's doing. because i'm sitting there going, what's he doing? >> good morning, everyone. >> it makes more sense. it fills in the blank. >> that gives us proper context. >> it is friday. it is friday, thank god. i need two days away from all of y
and health care. and by most accounts, it was mitt romney who emerged the victor. lots of debate analysis ahead on "starting point." we'll be talking live with john mccain of arizona and rand paul of kentucky. from team obama, we'll be speaking with martin o'malley and campaign spokeswoman, jen psaki. plus, obama's former economic adviser, austan goolsbee. first, though, a look at the instant reaction from the debate in the cnn/orc poll, of debate watchers taken right after the debate, 67% say they think romney won. 25% only thought the president won. cnn's dana bash joins us this morning to go over some of the hits and some of the misses. good morning. >> good morning. well, i'm here in new york, so maybe we should talk about what happens, how you get to carnegie hall, practice, practice, practice. and is that clearly is what helped the mitt romney. he spent a lot of time practicing, really for the past month doing these mock debates. and when it comes to the president, he was rusty. right out of the gate, it was clear. mitt romney came to play. >> the president has a view very similar t
? >> 14% is the number. 23 million is the number quoted by governor romney during the debate. it is a grim employment situation any which way you slice it. bill: but now you're still now below the big number. you're below 8%. so to the politics on this now? >> that is where some of the mistrust comes in. how convenient the rate drops below 8% first time in 43 months, five weeks before the election. there is some mistrust of these numbers along with the contradiction between 873,000 people found work, only 114,000 new jobs. mistrust of this report. bill: on that point it will be interesting to see how president obama plays this in fairfax, virginia later today. how mitt romney responds. he is in virginia, southwestern part of the state. also in florida. >> i suspect the president will play it big, we're going in the right direction. look at this 7.8%. how governor romney will respond i don't know. bill: stuart, 9:20 a.m.. this will pop up again. martha: let's get context of this. back in december 2007, when the recession began the unemployment rate was 5%. in october of 2009, that is the pe
: before the new jobs numbers, romney had been riding a wave of momentum after this week's debate. he even got a pass from the president who never mentioned romney's comments on the 47% of americans who don't pay federal income taxes. >> there are 47% of the people who vote for the president no matter what. >> reporter: with an obama campaign ad still repeating those, romney tried to put an end to the controversy once and for all on fox. >> clearly in a campaign with hundreds and thousands of speeches and question and answer sessions, now and then you're going to say something that doesn't come out right. in this case i've said something that's completely wrong. >> reporter: romney heads next to florida where his economic message will still resonate. that state's unemployment rate while it has gone down in recent months is still well above the national average. wolf. >> jim acosta joining us, thanks very much. let's dig deeper right now with our chief political analyst gloria borger. gloria, this unemployment number, the new number, how important is it to each of these two candidates? >> w
was enduring the debate rather than fighting it. romney, on the other hand, came in with a campaign. he had a plan. he was going to dominate the time. he was going to be aggressive. he's going to push the moderator around, which he did effectively. he was going to relish the evening enjoying it. the latest thing we got from romney because he said so is you know what i want to do with people when they're poor? shove them into the emergency room. why didn't obama say that? you talk about social security and medicare people, they're part of your 47%. you want to drop them from the list of eligible americans. you don't have any care for these people. what are you talking about? we've got it on tape, governor. we've got it on tape what you think of these people. don't come out here and pretend you care about old people because you met somebody at some campaign event. you've written off 47% of the country before you even started. where was obama tonight? romney, i loved the split screen. staring at obama. addressing him. like the prey. he did it just right. i'm coming at an incumbent. i've got to
's debate, president obama failed to mention mitt romney's infamous 47% comment. obama elected to take the high road, forgetting that that road leads to building houses with jimmy carter. romney went on to say that if elected, he would no longer borrow money from china to pay for pbs. china funds pbs. i guess that explains why this week's "sesame street" was brought to you by the letter this. according to nielsen numbers, more than 70 million people watched wednesday's debate either on tv, online or from one of the podiums. >> good morning. it's monday, october 8th. welcome to "morning joe." with us on set, we have msnbc contributor mike barnicle, political editor and white house correspondent for "the huffington post," sam stein. and managing editor of "fortune," andy serwer. >> andy, good to see you. how did columbia do this weekend? >> it was another "w." lehigh, i believe. >> lehigh. >> went out to pennsylvania and lost the football game. >> the columbia, what are you guys? >> lions. >> lions, exactly. of course, i knew that. ivy league mascots. hey, mika. >> yeah. >> something wei
.m. today. just a few hours before the debate started. romney did his debate prep in denver. when you go to 5,000 feet. >> exactly. >> and you only have a few hours to adjust. >> that's interesting. i don't know . >> brian: it makes a lot of sense. >> steve: there is such a thing. >> gretchen: we agree with it? >> brian: if you are playing the broncos that is an issue. but just talking? did anybody wipe the lens in the cameras. >> gretchen: what else is on the set agreeing with him. >> brian: he owns the company. sounds good, boss. >> steve: over the last 24 hours, the reason that the president was so subdued. they decided he was going to play it safe . rope the dope and let the clock run out . stay above the fray . it turns out the other guy bested him and that according to the polls. >> brian: how much to lower the temperature in here. it is 110. >> gretchen: i went like this. >> brian: you turned up the heat. >> gretchen: i turned it up from 69 to 66. >> brian: 10 bucks gets me to 62. >> gretchen: i will match that and more. okay, he's turning down the air conditioning to 50 let me do
's debate. team romney is also rolling out a new tv ad today, featuring a former obama supporter, who says she has changed his mind. >> i'm disappointed in barack obama as my president, because he promised to bring us all together. and we're all going to be able to prosper. i don't see the prospering. >> and big news out of ohio, where an appeals court has upheld a ruling that reinstates early voting on the final three days before election day. the ruling means that people in ohio can continue to cast their ballots up until election day, depending on the decisions of local election boards. it's a win for the obama campaign, which has filed a lawsuit arguing everyone should be able to vote on those days. we'll have more on all these stories throughout the next three hours. >>> president obama today keeping his focus on jobs, as we have mentioned. the september jobs report showed a drop in the unemployment rate to 7.8%. the president said in his weekly web address that the burden is on congress to keep the economy moving forward. nbc news white house correspondent, mike viqueira joins me now
debate. almost 60 million people watched mitt romney crush president obama last night. twitter blew up, biggest political night ever. so what did you guys think? let's start it out. polling, you were excited last night? >> it was great. twitter was going crazy. honestly, mitt romney made president obama look silly and small. he was great. mitt romney was. president obama was bumbling. he looked like he didn't want to be there. we heard all those analogies today. but i found it interesting that michael moore blamed john kerry, the debate prep guy. david axelrod blamed jim lehrer. al gore blamed the altitude. but nobody -- nobody blamed the president for being unprepared and outclassed by mitt romney last night. >> dana, take us deep into the psychology. what was going on? he looked like a man defeated. >> he sort of faded into the background initially. then i thought maybe it will get better. at the one hour mark, i thought wow, this is over. i thought romney was very bold. but he was also something different that he was fresh. and there is a huge gulf between the man that had been pain
debate. mitt romney was too hot, barack obama was too cold, but i don't think barack obama splattered on the canvass. i think he did okay and he was very sort of methodical and purposesorial which is the way he is. he came across with the way people expect him to be without the sense of humor he tends to show in the public. i thought mitt romney was too aggressive with the moderator. i thought he came away like a bully. the only take away people came away from the debate was big bird. usually in marketing, that is a fail. >> i would disagree. i don't think mitt romney was too aggressive. i think he played it very well for himself. he gave space with the moderator to let the people on stage talk. he was willing at every opportunity to get in that extra comment and to almost always even display his own policy and attack obama. i don't think obama did anything catastrophic, he wasn't as on and romney really was. >> i think as a professor, i sort of -- it was nice that we had a wonkish debate with numbers. i wish the numbers were a little more accurate. >> that's a problem, right. i found
vaebservation fr debate. >> this was mitt romney's night, he was sharp, specific, sustained, a plan of attack and went after barack obama every way he could. holding him accountable for the obama record. we haven't seen that too much in this campaign. there have been so many personal attacks, back and forts. he was able to say look this is what you promised four years ago, this is what you delivered on, where is the gap? here's what i will offer. most importantly, able to say look this is the choice i am offering. able to control the debate. >> what do you think was the problem with the president last night? his performance is uniformly panned, tired, underprepared, overconfident or strategy of some kind. >> it was part strategy. went into the debate knowing they're winning the campaign with current strategy. don't do anything to upset that apple cart. see if you can ride this out. the other piece, i think he went in thinking he didn't have to prepare, thinking he was able to ride this, this through, throughout. didn't think mitt romney would bring it the way he did. he was trying not to make
on the campaign trail as president obama and mitt romney hunkers down and prepares for wednesday's debate. a new abc news/"washington post" poll shows a very tight race. so both campaigns see tomorrow night as a big opportunity. this presidential campaign has been going on for nearly two years and finally it's debate season for the nominees. the time when americans seem to really start paying attention. president obama's rehearsing with senator john kerry and mitt romney is squaring off against senator rob portman. both candidates have challenges and checklists. president obama's working on shorter answers, trying to avoid sounding like the professor he was before the white house. democrats say he needs to look strong and forceful and not appear irritated or impatient. >> they're trying to get him into the mode of being able to answer questions, short, concisely, and to the point, and so it's much more like his mannerisms and his style and the way he comes across as opposed to information in this. >> reporter: and mitt romney? he has to seem relatable, especially after his 47% comment. how can h
ball, but two, two enormous balls. ha-ha-ha! >> mitt romney won the debate last night, which means president obama lost two fights on his anniversary last night. the president seemed a little bit out of it last night. he had all the enthusiasm of a husband talking to his wife's friends at a dinner party. he kept looking down and frowning. it was like he was trying to find something on apple maps. the only thing that could have salvaged obama's performance is if the body of bin laden could have fell from the ceiling onto the stage. >> obama could have waterboarded alladin, put down blue, deported dora the explorer and won walking away. romney won with the sound off. look up, look up. what are you writing's so important? oh, that's -- that is impressive work. >> oh, my gosh, i love that. >> finally, to another race, one as close as the presidential contest. >> family circle's, cookie bake-off, ann romney's m & m, versus michelle obama's white and dark chocolate chip cookies. >> another waner by 51 pptd 5% to 41.5%, 287 votes, michelle obama takes the sweep. here's a look at the cooki
, forget the next debate. >> eric: romney has to play it safe. there are five topics. the first three are the economy, the economy, the economy. great news for mitt romney. lay it out. >> bob: what would it be? >> eric: lower, across the board, 20% tax cuts across the board. closing loopholes. lay it out. turn to president obama. if he has a chance to say we know yours don't work. look at what is going on. household incomes are down $4,500 per household. net worth down 30%. gasoline prices doubled. i'd do it for three blocks. >> bob: you think romney ought to lay out what the deductions are? >> dana: no. >> eric: you know, well, whatever. sure, why not, why not say here, we'll post loopholes on xyz. that's fine. it won't hurt. >> greg: we end up talking about loopholes all the time. mitt will lose. there are huge issues here. i go back to benghazi. you go to high unemployment. there is serious -- >> dana: if you are going to talk about the economy, then certainly there will be a question tonight about the entitlement program. most importantly social security and medicare. if you talk
. this is the first poll based entirely on interviews after the debate. mitt romney had a modest debate bounce. the question is will it be a blip or lasting change. >> gretchen: look at the university of colorado forecasting model. this is interesting. this is the only model that looks at the electoral college and you need those votes to be president. 330, of the 538 map are going to mitt romney. this is the same out fit in august or september or august 22nd prediction they said the same thing. but romney picked up five more points. >> steve: what they do. they look at economics of what is going on nationally and local and state level . they look at wealth and they look at unemployment and all sorts of stuff. they predict mitt romney will win these states. new mexico and that is new since they updated it and, north carolina and win virginia ohio new hampshire colorado, wisconsin and ohio and florida and barack will win michigan and nevada. >> gretchen: i don't think that romney will win minnesota. as a native of that state, that is in the obama camp. >> they say voters hold democrats more resp
showdown only days away. new poll numbers show governor romney with a post-debate bump. paul ryan getting ready for the faceoff against joe biden in the next big debate. i'm bill hemmer here. martha has the day off. >> i'm patti ann browne in for mart maing that -- martha maccallum. a veteran political strategist says joe biden will be going for the throat. >> they will be pouring cola down his throat. they will react. because they will have a couple days of bad polling. ryan has very impressive but hasn't done this before. biden who is high-wire act in attack mode which is not always his normal place. bill: joe cola. fox news contributor, good morning to you. >> good morning, bill. bill: you believe this is huge opportunity for romney-ryan, why? >> it is. romney set the stage for the dominant victory over the president in the first presidential debate. that changed the story of the whole campaign. if you have ryan defeating the vice president joe biden it would really create a story of obama-biden on the ropes. and, romney-ryan on the move. bill: the way mike murphy explains it, republic
tonight will the moderator of the presidential debate will ask mr. romney about the 47 comment. will they ask about this particular video that shows then senator obama showing that the neglect of new orleans was racial. >> down in new orleans, where they still have not rebuilt 20 months later. there is a federal law when you get reconstruction money from the federal government called the staford act and when you get federal matter you have to give a 10 percent match from the local government. when 9/11 happened in new york city, they waived the staford act. they said this is too serious of a problem and we can't expect new york city to lebuild on its own. forget that dollar. that was the right thing to do. what is happening down in new orleans? where is your dollar? where is your staford act money? it makes no sense. trust me, the bullet hasn't been taken out. it tells me that the people down in new orleans doesn't care as much. >> steve: you can see it in the entirity in the daily he said the people of new orleans got the shaft and people who suffered from 9/11 or
hoping for more of this. it is teed up to be a debate about big ideas. is mitt romney going to deliver? >> i am sure that part of the reason this video is out there, just the day before, is to give romney the opportunity to, perhaps, reference it when you talk about the role of government, when you talk about the economy, he's got some phrases he likes to use about more people being on welfare and all of that, so i would imagine we'll hear some of that. i actually disagree with something mark said. i think this was very much a play for the base. even our nbc news poll, 23% of people said, that 47% comment made them like mitt romney better. so there are people out there who agree with those comments. >> aren't they locked up already? that's a question -- >> no. because remember we've also seen reuters has had the polling and a lot of polling that show some low-income southern whites are thinking he's too richy rich. what it shows is he's still in trouble with his own base and now, you know, obviously the way the white house is trying to set this up, the president is going to talk about
the kinds of voters that you are talking about, mr. romney, in this debate tonight, when you say government is paying too big a role in people's lives. that's a tricky one for him to walk out of. >> are the elderly moochers? he's going to have to answer that question. >> service members on disability? i mean same thing. >> coming on the heels of the romney campaign trying to use joe biden's biden-esque turn of phrase the middle class has been buried and you know, biden has walked that back, you know, is it an indictment of the president? look if you're going to fight for the ground on the middle class i don't know that joe biden is the person you want to be sparring against. >> he is by far the best middle class, working-class figure in this race. but to me, the hannity, drudge, obama thing, the ryan thing, i mean, really? this is all they got? i mean, i found the -- i found nothing that obama said in that speech objectionable or disagreeable, similarly, i find ryan's thing not -- i mean there's a sophisticated and legitimate argument to be made about, you know, entitlement and size of gove
romney, all part of the preparations for the first debate . in a few hours it will be the real thing and it is live in denver. >> security preparation is at the highest level in denver as the president and the man who hopes to take his job will be in the same room at the same time. something that rarely ever happens. we can show you inside of the university of denver. things are coming along as the staff set the stage for the event. the cand dates are expected to have walk throughs later on today. governor romney took to practicing with ohio senator rob portman. they stopped by chipolte for lunch. his opponents was at the hoover dam. he's been in a debate camp with john kerry. one thing to consider as we head in tonight. early voting is underway in some states and that raises the stakes. >> the first debate is a huge deal . some people can go out and vote the next day. in colorado, people can vote the next week before the other debates even occurred. if there is an immediate affect you will see it in the ballot box. >> the debate gets underway 9:00 eastern time . 7:00 denver time. >>
six-pack debate by any stretch. there weren't a lot of bright spots for the president. this was romney's night. everyone on both side saying that. one effective thing the president did, pointed out romney is still short on details on a few key things, health care plan, his tax care plan, as well as as frank-dodd. did he score any points as far as romney being a blank canvas? >> there were a few vulnerabilities when you talked about entitlements, tax plans, he has to square these numbers. he dug himself some holes, that the obama campaign can dig him into even more. it's going to be difficult for him to square those things in a future debate. i think there is possible areas of opportunity there. this was not something that even the most dedicated partisans can paint as a good night for president obama. >> you know it's a bad night if opinions are that uniform, huh? >> exactly. the next presidential debate, tuesday, october 16th. >> thank you, rick. >> thanks. >> thank you, guys. >>> our coverage of the debate does not end here. we'll take you live to denver, during "america this morning
not defend his economic record on wednesday night. that's why governor romney won the debate. nothing lying had nothing to do with it. >> yesterday, big news came out and it was a head scratcher for everyone from economists to pundits to politician and these were the unemployment numbers. here is what was confusing. only 114,000 jobs were added in the month of september. that's less than we need to keep up -- keep pace even with population growth. >> what do we need about 200,000. >> yes and 114 is considered anemic. however, somehow the unemployment rate dropped from 8.1 all the way down to 7.8 and that has left economists saying how did this happen? >> how in the world did this happen because 873,000 more people had jobs according to another survey that was a part of this thing. so to make sense of all of this for us this morning is economists and proffer of international business at the university of maryland peter morris is i is joining us this morning. >> hey, peter. >> we needed a smarter person to join us this morning. seriously last night on facebook and twitter people just really c
his debate answers, shorter, more succinct. they have two minutes to react. mitt romney took a brief work from prep work to rally supporters in ten ver. told the crowd of thousand. the debats are about something bigger than who wins. romney and his debate partner, ohio senator, rob portman will spend the day working on last minute details. former bronco quarterback john elway announced his support for romney. >>> and now, a major medical headline this morning. internet addiction is now a step closer to being recognized as a serious illness. the world's top sigh kol jilss now recommend further study into internet and technology addiction so it can be formally classified as get this is a mental illness. researchers say children who are addicted to video games, are much more at risk for depression and anxiety. the problem goes beyond video gaming and formal studies should take place next year. >>> that brings us to our facebook question of the day -- how do you know when you have been overdoing it online and what do you do to control yourself? let us know at i can say from
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